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I think it looks a lot better than the first one. The scenes of Spidey in action look great. The character designs for the villains look a little silly though. Electro looks fine, the Vulture wings and Doc Ock arms teased in the lab scene look pretty cool too. But if Hollywood doesn't like the way the Goblin(s) look, then they should quit putting them in the movies. And Rhino, I was trying to think of better ways of bringing him into the live action format, and I decided maybe that character just doesn't translate. I really just want Sony to give it up and let Marvel Studios bring him into their Movieverse. Whatever, I'll still dish out the money to see it in the theater.
Last Edit: Dec 6, 2013 16:08:26 GMT -6 by thetripleb
Post by briandomingos on Dec 11, 2013 8:01:15 GMT -6
I didn't call in this week because I really had nothing to say about the trailer. I still haven't seen the first one. I liked the "falling from a high place/wind-whipping/costume-bunching thing but that was possible and shown really well in the ULTIMATE SPIDER-MAN game for, what, PS2? Blue Electro was fine but I don't like Jamie Foxx as a rule.
Post by theamazingspiderbrad on Dec 12, 2013 0:46:57 GMT -6
I think one thing that is starting to really bother me about these new Super Hero movies (Spidey especially) is how techy they make everything look. I think we could get a pretty dang sweet Green Goblin that doesn't look like a robot/power trooper or decked out in tactical gear. I know some things don't translate but I think that we could get a sweet looking Ramos looking goblin with Chainmail arms and leg in a dark green hue, a torn and blood stained purple tunic, and a crazy green mask. We have millions of pictures of these characters, just follow that! I know some things may be kind of cheesy, but that is what so many super hero comics are! Why no green and yellow costume for Electro? Instead, all black. The Robot Rhino doesn't bother me too much but it does seem like something he rides instead of a more of a Mech Suit. I can get into that more once the movie is in theaters. I'm still excited for it. It looks like a lot of fun and I like the cast (not at first but I don't think I'll be disappointed.) I really do think it would be refreshing to get a comic movie that ACTUALLY looks like the comic book. Maybe people just don't want to take a chance with the bright colors? The spandex? Stop making the stuff so "modern" and give me what I want!
Post by briandomingos on Dec 12, 2013 9:27:10 GMT -6
Electro & the Rhino are loosely based on the ULT. SPIDER-MAN designs, so I kind of expected that. The chainmail Goblin would be cool. I wonder if they tried it and it doesn't look right? The color scheme might not work? But man, the GG from the 1st trilogy had that embarrassing mask/helmet...
"I really do think it would be refreshing to get a comic movie that ACTUALLY looks like the comic book. Maybe people just don't want to take a chance with the bright colors? The spandex?"
Okay, here's a wildly unpopular opinion out of left field for you guys: Spider-Man: Turn Off The Dark kiiiiiiinda sorta did that. In case you're unfamiliar, SM:TOD is the chaotic and catastrophic original Broadway musical starring Spidey himself that's about to close. There are a hundred million things wrong with the show - seriously, it was my favorite one to take students to so we could play "find yet another design concept that somehow ended up on stage at the same time" BUT! Two of those design concepts were in fact brilliantly comic book-y in a way that is extraordinarily difficult to translate into three dimensions. The rest of the show is a hot mess (although a few of the songs are solid), and it's headed to Vegas if you're interested.
I bring it up now because I think the point about translating comics to live action (be it film or theater) is really fascinating. Much of the aesthetic quality of traditional superhero books - extreme forced perspective, predominantly primary colors, physics-defying costuming (you thought I was going to say action, didn't you), constantly revolving camera angles - is very difficult to recreate with, you know, real people and stuff. Most of the examples I can think of that made a decisive effort to evoke the comic (Sin City, heck even Dick Tracy) don't have action on the scale of Spider-Man. I am not at all convinced that it would work, though I'd love to see it tried.
What's your point, Andrea? Eh, I don't really have one. I just find this kind of academic posturing super near and dear to my heart because there is no good answer. Fun to banter about, though.
Post by theamazingspiderbrad on Dec 16, 2013 21:03:39 GMT -6
I've not seen it but I don't really want to...
I think they Broad Way'ed it up too hard with they way these things look. I see what you are getting at but I also feel like we have the technology to do it and instead they are ignoring the possibilities. I want one goblin in my life time in a live action film/movie/tv show/ANYTHING that actually looks like the original Green Goblin. Instead of these idiot monstrosities.
Why not just a dude that looks like craven? DO WE NEED A FOAM HEAD?!?!
Post by briandomingos on Dec 18, 2013 8:02:01 GMT -6
The spider-man costume itself works in the movies so it's got to be possible to figure the rest out in live-action. I don't know that the Robo-Rhino is the way to go but they did it in the ULT comic so it is technically correct. I refuse to believe that Sony/Raimi struggled with the Green Goblin costume so much that they settled on that stupid helmet/armor thing. I can't imagine someone saw the design and said, "this is EXACTLY what we need!" Maybe it's just the chainmail, a cloak and face paint.
Kraven doesn't need a foam head - he's basically Dog the Bounty-hunter with a brown crew-cut (I think they even have the leopard pants).
I mean, do we know for sure that he's not just wearing a foam head at all times and nobody knows what Willem Dafoe really looks like? But you're right, I agree with you that he has the kind of face that was perfect for it.
Post by harveylocust on Feb 2, 2014 21:54:23 GMT -6
Here is the issue I talk about, and yes Joe it is the one where Ned dies, but it is sooooo much more than that! *SPOILER ALERT* on a, what, 28 year old book.... Wolvie has a gal pal in the spy world who is ready to give up. Too many people want her dead and she tries to give in, but nosy old Spider-Man keeps interfering until she eventually tricks him into killing her, and that weighs heavy on Peter who was supposed to be on vacation.