Post by briandomingos on Jun 8, 2017 9:13:50 GMT -6
Magic stuff is not really my thing but it has its moments. I think the limitations of the power type is the "how" of the execution of the spells. I love the backwards spells of Zatanna but I feel like it's inconsistent. Nico Minoru/Sister Grimm has the "can't use the same spell twice" issue. Billy Kaplan/Wiccan has the issue of "needing to hear his spells" for them to work. Is there a database of all of Dr. Strange's spells? It gets messy, for consistent/continuity issues.
I wish Renato Guedes had spent more time on CONSTANTINE. His version is GREAT.
You know I realize that there's a standard for cosmic, mutant and alien characters too. I think if comics or a set or standard on things like that, it'll change comics. When you say who can defeat whom, it changes things. It doesn't give growth in this continuity world.
Post by BlackScorpionIII on Jun 8, 2017 20:30:54 GMT -6
I don't know if DC will ever have consistent rules on magic due to the Vertigo imprint, the Spectre, and Doctor Fate. Regular interaction with the magical plane and gods stopping counterfeit gangs are reminiscent of God-Man: I want some kinds of rules or limitations- even if they're like the briandomingos examples that aren't incredibly limiting- because there's wiggle room for something to interfere with resolving everything with an I Dream of Genie nod. ...At the same time, I'm caught up in my love for Q episodes in Star Trek. I'm a sucker for two things: 1. Mister Mxyzptlk is kind of the best of both worlds for me. A stupid rule (that *could* limit his abilities and would never get invoked) and godlike powers that interfere in mortal affairs without presenting a lasting imbalance to the world of the characters. 2. Magical artifacts are a nice workaround. The user can still be vulnerable or limited in their abilities, so we have people with potential godlike power that might not actually be realized.
Post by briandomingos on Jun 9, 2017 8:32:10 GMT -6
I'm not looking for hard-lined "X > Y" stuff. I just like consistency. (It drives me crazy when the GOLDEN GIRLS writers ignore continuity, for example.) I thought Nico's restriction was an interesting twist (pretty common for BKV). It makes the writer work harder. I like that aspect.
I guess with these types of characters, the pay off is in the quality of the writing. If a writer and/or editor half-asses it, it shows. I think the rhyming of the Demon is annoying until it's done well. Moore and Ennis were the best with it. Moore wrote it with the intricacies of a mathematics problem and Ennis seemed to write them with the glee of a well-told dirty joke.
The Mxyzptlk-bit is great when it works. I loved the SUPERMAN ADVENTURES episode (for 70/30 Gilbert/plot reasons).